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Wednesday, 17 July 2013

"Oh my my my.... leave the comments turned OFF. Please. I wasn't sure at first..."

Posted on 06:04 by Unknown
"... but reading and thinking about what Althouse has to say without the clamorous din of too many commenters yelling about what they thought she'd said (I know I know I didn't have to read them) is so much better. The vlog was delightful. It was past time for some of the commenters to be stopped from using the comment section to fight, bicker, converse with, and insult each other and honestly with Althouse's type of post, commenters [would] sometimes distract from the message. I'll miss Freeman Hunt and a few others, but maybe they'll start their own blog someday. Maybe some of the others won't."

Email from one reader.

And here's another, from a different reader (hot link added):
NEVER START ACCEPTING COMMENTS AGAIN! For the sake of my sanity, please don’t! In recent times, whenever I read a comment chain, I found myself slipping into madness, like R.M. Renfield waiting for the arrival of the “master.” I was an addict. I wanted the shit so bad it didn’t matter if the bulk of the comments were meaningless garbage contributing nothing to the discussion of the topic. I needed my fix, got my hit and lost my way.

Ann then Ann intervened and axed the comments. She saved (metaphorically) my life.

For what it’s worth, Ann’s output is up, her topics of greater breadth and moment than ever and I’m enjoying reading her blog again, just as I did back in 2007.
If you really need a fix of the old stuff, you can see some of the my erstwhile commenters mixing it up on Lem's place. For the most part, they are demonstrating why it's better not to have that material here. And then there's the occasional comment like this, from "Eileen Lurker" (the 463rd comment in this thread):
I think I've finally read every single comment on this thread.

I really don't know why. Glutton for punishment, I guess....

I love all you guys, and as one of the 90% who almost never commented but always read at althouse, I was actually very excited to come here and see all my favorite names show up.

I'm really not interested in meeting anyone; I just like the way a lot of you think, and appreciate the depth and good humor that often underlies the discussion. I love -- love! -- the fact that so many of you see things "outside the box," and it interests and challenges me in ways I genuinely enjoy. In that sense, Althouse was the perfect leader for the discussion, since she was unafraid to challenge the conventional take on any topic that caught her eye.

I don't know why things changed, but it was a very rapid and unsettling devolvement. Maybe it's just not possible to get that back, but isn't there room for that on the internet? Can't there be a place that's about ideas, and not so much personalities, at least in the sense of truly knowing each other IRL?

I especially don't get the flame throwers, who never seem to add anything to the discussion at all, just name-calling and accusation and innuendo. Why? What's the value there? I don't get it. It's not about whether the commenters here like each other personally, at least that's not what attracts me. It's your *ideas,* and the way you express them. Maybe if I knew you personally I'd be repelled, and horrified that I let you and your ideas into my home (as it were).

But see, the beauty of this is that I never *have* to let you into my home. It's about how you think about a topic that interests me, and how that makes me think in turn; and that's all I really need to know in order to love coming here. So maybe you really *are* a dog. But if you put an idea out there that gets me to think, I'm grateful. It's fun. It's interesting. I really don't want more than that.

I'd always wanted to be a commenter at althouse -- my goodness, you've all provided fodder for many a discussion at my home! I'd love to see if I could keep up with you all, and maybe even add something to the discussion. But the risk appears to be high; and the nasty infection appears to have followed you all here.

Ugly, ugly stuff. Why? Really, why?
You know, I would have allowed all that ugliness to continue, and it wasn't the reason I suddenly shut off the comments the day I did. There was a more specific problem that had to be dealt with. It's been explained, but those who are grousing about my cutting off the comments don't seem to understand. Responding to people who don't (or won't) understand things had long been a distracting problem, quite aside from the ugliness and the outright hostility to me from people who were camped in my comments, stinking up the place. But, as I said, I would have continued to host the comments, because I liked seeing comments and loved some of the commenters, if it hadn't been for the more specific problem that I don't want to talk about.

Now, I see their continual expression of ill-will toward me, and I'm glad to have my distance. If they really loved commenting here and wanted to come back, they should have talked about how they could help me restore the conversation in a way that could work. Instead they showed how much they were part of the problem, and how they didn't really even like me. It's been an enlightenment, and it's affected how I write here. I've enjoyed the comments-free space, and I hope I'm providing better material for those who want to read what I have to say. If you want to talk back, I accept and read email and (as you see above) publish some of it.

Alternatively, start your own blog.
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      • "As a frequent (daily) reader of your blog, I have...
      • "On reflection, then, I’m inclined to say that an ...
      • In place of the old hedge...
      • "23 Libertarian Problems."
      • At long last audiotape: Monica Lewinsky micromanag...
      • "As a feminist, I find it infinitely sad to imagin...
      • "The fact that tall people die younger appears to ...
      • After growing for millions of years, why has the h...
      • "'Coucou, tu as pris le pain?' ('Hi there, have yo...
      • You and your dog's eyebrows.
      • Dickmanship, Part 2: Women in politics.
      • "When USS Indianapolis was hit by Japanese torpedo...
      • "No concealed weapons allowed on this property."
      • Records From My Father, Part 6: "$64,000 Jazz."
      • "We’re... baffled by Huma’s choice because women n...
      • The verdict in the Bradley Manning case.
      • "Alarmed by Eliot Spitzer’s momentum in his unexpe...
      • The Most Pretentious Thing Ever Written About Geor...
      • "The perks Google lays on for its employees are th...
      • The corpse flower is about to bloom.
      • "TV reporter fired for ‘tell-all’ blog about going...
      • 10-year-old girl catches a baby dropped from a sec...
      • Anthony Weiner says, "it's very hard to have it co...
      • Real Buffalo and Sweet Potato Dog Food.
      • Tina Brown's war on men: "End the Damn Dickmanship!"
      • Sharp stone cuts.
      • "Spain's first-ever town councillor with Down Synd...
      • "7 Disgusting Retro Canned Foods That You Won’t Be...
      • "It’s not that I don’t love my dog. It’s just that...
      • Education and teacher supplies.
      • "A Closer Look at ‘Nonhuman Personhood’ and Animal...
      • "Mort Sahl is the guy who inspired me to go on sta...
      • "They threw this baby out the window because the g...
      • "A 4-step technique is used to turn stem cells fro...
      • "Seriously? The mere image of eight women and one ...
      • "Being a manic depressive is like having brown hair."
      • "I'm sorry, did Elbow just call the Solidarity Sin...
      • How the Obama 2012 campaign — replete with hugely ...
      • "The Clintons are upset with the comparisons that ...
      • Who is in Madison with a "Who is John Galt?" bumpe...
      • "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good wil...
      • Records From My Father, Part 5: "Remember How Grea...
      • I condemn Kedem.
      • A much-criticized WaPo headline: "What motivates a...
      • "But Mr Stach’s biography also shows Kafka’s light...
      • "Barnaby Jack, a hacker and security researcher pr...
      • "Stand still. Stand steady. Stand clear."
      • Cute dog on a cold day in July.
      • The consequences of blushing.
      • "This was shot over the course of the 2012/2013 ac...
      • The new science of poker playing.
      • Obama says "racial tensions won’t get better."
      • Reel mowing a semi-circular lawn.
      • Nidal Hasan, the Fort Hood shooter, tries to explain.
      • "Parkinson's itself there's nothing horrifying to ...
      • Travel bloggers organizing travel bloggers to leve...
      • iPaw.
      • "Walter Cronkite hosted a special about Sinatra in...
      • Dachshund food.
      • What if a black widow spider were to nest in a pri...
      • Did the Pope say "allow ourselves to be smitten" b...
      • Nothing insectoid. It's not a theme day.
      • Larvae Day.
      • The movie industry is "laying down too many big be...
      • A countertop kitchen appliance for growing your ow...
      • "Smitten by his love."
      • "I’m just asking you to wrap your mind around that...
      • What happens when the under-the-desk spot is invad...
      • Records From My Father, Part 4: "Manhattan Tower."
      • The Anthony Weiner New Yorker cover.
      • "When I showed my cervix to 40,000 people on stage...
      • Death penalty for killing an unborn child?
      • "Why don't men pursue women anymore?"
      • Call me Carmela Calamity.
      • "Sweetie, we don’t mean to alarm you..."
      • "Self-esteem. This organ is situated at the vertex...
      • "That's not a plot hole. Allow me to explain."
      • Kitty Tongue, the Glove.
      • "I failed for a long time in this project.... In s...
      • Tallness correlates with cancer?
      • The God Dog Can't Look Up.
      • "Where was your self-esteem?"
      • How can you expect to edit your own life, when it'...
      • "I've found the perfect woman. Gorgeous, sexy and ...
      • Why isn't your dress...
      • Someone's a hot knife and someone's a pat of butter.
      • How to dress your hair like Empress Plotina.
      • Abby, today.
      • I'm inviting comments, filtered by moderation...
      • Records From My Father, Part 3: "Memories Are Made...
      • "Psychopaths do not lack empathy, rather they can ...
      • Baked Into the Dog Cake.
      • Continued carnage by pro executioners.
      • 78 dead as a high-speed train leaps off the tracks.
      • "We were all sort of awestruck because her body lo...
      • "I'm trying my best not to be cynical, but: Is sub...
      • "He once described himself to me as an argumentati...
      • "What's up with Cleveland?"
      • Madison, today.
      • "Is this really the message we want to send to the...
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